Mission 7 Field Test – Approaches 2, 3, and 4

December 14, 2009

Once again, Mission 7 is to use an opener and approach. I did the first one last weekend. Here are the rest of the approaches that happened during my Wingwoman night out in Belltown this past weekend with Maria The Date Coach (post coming soon). Mission 7 is now complete…I did it. :)

Approach 2 of 3 – Asian girl

(This one was with a cute, young Asian girl who I think was friend’s with one of the other girls with whom I had another interaction. She was standing next to me so I just had to get the nerve to open my mouth.)

Me: Hi. (smiles)
Her: Hi. (smiles)
Me: So I need a female opinion.
Her: (tilts head) Ok…
Me: My friend is going on a second date with this girl. He wants to take her on a helicopter ride around the Space Needle? What do you think of that idea?
Her: That’s cool. It sounds fun.

(Surprise, surprise.)

Me: What? It’s a second date? They just met for coffee before.
Her: It’s different.
Me: Yeah, but it’s quite a big gesture isn’t it?
Her: Yeah, it is. But it’s a good crazy.

(We then chat a while. I don’t remember how it ended. Noisy, crowded place. Very cute girl.)

Interaction review:
HorridBadFairGoodExcellent!Amazing!

What went well: It opened, it worked. It got her talking to me.
What didn’t: It’s not like she seemed disinterested, but it didn’t go anywhere. It was a nice conversation.

Approach 3 of 3 – Lone girl from Lake Chelan

(At another bar (with an even worse male/female ratio), Maria went to the restroom down a hall. Also waiting was a pretty brunette, standing alone. I did what the book suggested. I didn’t think and I just went in. I approach from her right and stand next to her side-by-side and glance over.)

Me: Hi. (My voice felt WEAK.)
Her: Hi. (Eyes me dubiously. I get the feeling she’s been hit on all night.)
Me: I need a female opinion on something. Just waiting for my friend in the bathroom…
Her: (Quirky smile, what a cutie…) Yes?
Me: My…uh, friend (I’m nervous here so I stuttered) is going on a second date with some girl and wants to take her on a helicopter ride around the Space Needle.
Her: Oh, I think that’s a good date. (expressionless)
Me: Really? I told him he’s crazy. If he does that for this date, what’s next? Isn’t it over-the-top?
Her: That isn’t something I have ever had the chance to do. I would be impressed.

(Side note: Ok, men and women universally disagree on this topic. No man is going to think a helicopter date is a good idea for date #2.)

Me: They just met for coffee and now he’s doing this. I think it sends the wrong signal. Too much.
Her: I’ve never had a chance to do something like that.

(Oh crap…I haven’t thought this through. Now what?)

Me: My name is Devo, what’s your name?
Her: I’m ____. (shakes hands)
Me: Are you from Seattle?
Her: Lake Chelan.
Me: Oh, that’s so pretty there.

(Buzz! Boring conversation alert! Help! She’s not really helping…I should just bail if I can’t think of anything.)

Me: I’m from Seattle.

(Then her boyfriend, I think…but it didn’t look like they made a good couple, came out of the bathroom. I felt tension in the air so I excused myself.)

Me: Well, I should find my friend. Nice to meet you.
Her: Nice to meet you too.

Interaction review:
HorridBadFairGoodExcellent!Amazing!

What went well: Technically, it opened.
What didn’t: It may have come across as a pickup line. Also, I didn’t adapt well to the environment.

Approach 4 of 3 – Two girls at a table

(Yes, 4 of 3. This one was total extra credit as the mission is just to do three. I know I need practice approaching so any chance at practice helps. While at the bar, I saw a table of two women looking very stiff and not talking to anyone or each other. They were fairly older than me. I wasn’t even drunk and I smoothly walked by without hesitation, looked over my shoulder and said…)

Me: Hi! (smile)
Both: (looking uncomfortable) Hello. (The one on the right (Woman #2) smiled.)
Me: I’m looking to get a female opinion on something my friend is doing.
Woman 2: What’s that?
Me: My friend is going on a second date with this girl. He wants to take her on a helicoper ride around the Space Needle. What do you guys think of that idea?
Woman 2: That would be amazing! (smiles)
Woman 1: Yes, good idea. (straight face)

(ok, it’s unanimous. 4 out of 4 women want a helicopter ride around the Space Needle. I should mention here that it’s Holy Joe who suggested this line for me when I was in LA. It served me well. I’m ready for a new one but this line, combined with looking SHARP from the style change, allowed me to do these approaches. Anyway, back to the interaction…)

Me: So who’s idea was it to come here tonight?
Woman 2: (points) Her idea.
Me: Oh yeah, how’d you choose this place?
Woman 1: We heard about it from a friend.
Woman 2: Yes, good music here!

(My guess is that these two are co-workers. I feel in control as I don’t think they’ve been talking to anybody. I find woman 2 more attractive as well as interactive. So I use this opportunity to move around to her side of the table.)

Me: You have a lovely accent. Where are you from?
Woman 2: (smiles) Thank you. I’m from Columbia.
Me: How nice. Me llamo Devo, hola. (shakes hands)
Woman 2: (laughs) Hola, nice to meet you.
Me: So what do you guys do?

(At this point, I enter my polite mode. I don’t feel like “gaming” these two. I learned it’s not only men who are uncomfortable at bars like this. Anyway, we have a nice chat about Seattle, what they do, Columbia, etc. It was nice. I think they enjoyed it as well. I was done with my mission and then some.)

Lastly, these weren’t the only interactions that evening. The next posts will be about my style change along with my night having Maria as a wingwoman. Watch for those later this week.


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  1. #1 by MariaTheDateCoach on December 15, 2009 - 6:47 am

    The only girl this liner did not impress was me.

    Why would you ask a girl her opinion on “your friend”? She doesn’t know him, and he is not even in the present company.

    As I had told you over the weekend, try to make it personal, about her or you– or make it general, about men and women. Something where the conversation can continue to FLOW. I’d leave friends that are not in the present company out of opening liners. **Just saying**

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